Komoot features available on Garmin

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  • Robert-Jan Geerts

    Clear explanation that matches my experience with a Fenix 6s pro. I have no idea how complicated it is to implement, but I would appreciate turn-by-turn arrows tremendously. The watch does have the capacity to show turn-by-turn navigation for maps created on the Garmin Connect website, so I assume there's a way. If you can make it happen for Komoot, I'd get a premium account to use it.

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  • Hans

    I agree with Robert-Jan. It works the same for Fenix 5 Plus.

     

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  • Robert-Jan Geerts

    It seems that with the seamless upload of courses (without Komoot IQ connect app) that was implemented last week, Turn-by-turn arrows suddenly appeared as well. Very nice!

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  • Simon

    Casual rider here. What's the cheapest Garmin device that will give me Turn-by-turn arrows / distance to next turn etc. I was hoping an edge 520 could do it. Or may an Edge 520 with OS maps installed.

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  • Simon

    "At the moment none of the Garmin devices is capable of showing turn-by-turn navigation instructions in form of arrows on the screen of the device."

    But when I download TCX file from RWGPS, and manually put the file on an old Edge 200 I get cue points and arrows.

    I love komoot, but I need cue points!

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  • Alan PW

    Agreeing with Simon - my Garmin supports TbT but not on a Komoot route accessed through the Connect IQ app. Need to check Robert’s “seamless upload” solution.

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  • Hans

    @Robert-Jan Tell us more about the seamless upload solution. How to use it?

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  • Robert-Jan Geerts

    OK, I now have a little more experience with all this, so I hope I can explain. I've learned that there are at least three ways in which my Fenix 6 navigates:

    1) map centred at your position with a line of the 'course' overlaid, nothing else. I don't remember for sure, but perhaps at the bottom it shows distance to finish - which suggests that's the first 'cue' in the route file.

    2) as above, except at the bottom of the screen there's a little arrow and distance indicator for next cue. When you approach the turn, the watch beeps and buzzes and displays the cue a bit larger (e.g. left in 114 meters).

    3) as above, except when you approach the turn the watch buzzes and beeps and gives a full screen notification such as "In 89m, go right on Oak Street".

    When I wrote my first comment a few months ago, komoot courses worked in mode 1. When I connected Komoot with the Garmin Connect app it started working in mode 2. This procedure is explained here: https://support.komoot.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043448451-Using-Garmin-Courses-Sync-on-komoot

    I've only seen mode 3 when I asked the watch to navigate home by itself. I don't think there's a significant benefit over mode 2; the fact that you don't see the map when approaching a junction is actually a drawback when there aren't any visible street signs and there is more than one option in the same direction.

    There are some vagaries to when something is a 'turn' according to komoot, but I suppose that has to do with how the maps are drawn, and I don't think this has to do with the komoot-garmin combination. Most of the time it's fine anyway.

    Now when I'm on a tour and I want to adjust my route, I:

    -start the komoot app on my phone, make a new route or adjust an existing one and name it so it's easily recognizable by the first 15 or so characters, as the watch doesn't display long titles.

    -then move over to the Garmin connect app. You can check whether the new route shows up under Training -> Courses just to be sure. Then make the watch sync with the app. I'm not sure this works while you're doing an activity, perhaps you have to pause and choose 'resume later', and then sync.

    -after syncing, the new route should be in the list on the watch. Enjoy the ride!

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  • Cheryl Clarke

    I have been successful in seeing turn-by-turn directions from a tour planned on Komoot on both my Fenix 6 Pro and my Edge 520. This is only the case by going through 'Garmin Courses Sync'. (https://support.komoot.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043448451). This automatically sends your Komoot tours to your Garmin Connect app, and then you 'Send to Device' as you would with a Garmin Connect planned route.

     

    I do not get turn by turn directions by downloading Kamoot as an app onto my Fenix 6. It think it is great that my Fenix watch itself has access all my Kamoot planned tours through a watch app, but this option did not give me turn-by-turn.The only metric displayed when I loaded and walked the course was distance to the end of the course (as mentioned by Robert-Jan in their first point of 3). But like most of us I want turn by turn. 

     

    Same as Robert-Jan, using a Komoot planned tour I didn't receive a turn vibration and command at one turn, even though it was a turn. Whereas the identical Garmin Connect planned route did signal at this turn. So, a little bit a discrepancy. I am also experiencing that Komoot offers a lower predicted elevation profile. Sometimes I feel this is considerable, such as 300 to 400 ft of a difference over a cycle route that on Garmin is ~2000ft (~1600ft on Komoot). I will continue giving Komoot a shot as many great features, but this is putting me off as elevation is important to know. That said, who is to say that Garmin's elevation output is correct, perhaps Garmin is over predicted and Komoot is correct. Although Garmin measures up well enough with Strava. Overall, hard to say. 

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